I don't think anyone is talking about mass murder of an entire global religious identity; that would be as silly as talking about killing every Christian or the like.
Making generalizations is always hard because they always, always underestimate factionalism in any category. Even in the area of total European dominance, they were mostly focused on making war on one another, and so it is everywhere.
Love it. Glad to see that our views of what is ill within the West coincide. I'm interested to hear what a Muslim has to say about it, in the rest of the series!
"That West of Christendom, which resisted the oppression of kings, was charitable to the destitute, the weak, and the orphans, was patient with trials, troubles, and tribulations, and was always of sound mind when in battle...
That West may yet stage a comeback!"
Thanks for recognising the distinction between the remnant of Christendom within the West as being worthy of recognition.
But the seats of power are now virtually all occupied by those of the globalist/cultural Marxist/ materialist/ Satanic type and rheir useful idiot puppets who go in front of the cameras for their masters.
This is an interesting and measured post, I'm eager to see the rest.
I'll enrich it by adding that there are not two Wests - there's at least four of them.
The First West represents the philosophical continuum from the various pagan religions and customs of Europe, to the Greco-Roman philosophical tradition (chiefly Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle and Plotinus), to the Roman Catholic Church which took both and laid a rather thin Biblical veneer upon them. This First West died a slow death at the hands of the Third West, but has its closest living relative in the Orthodox-Slavic tradition.
The Second West is the child of the Magisterial Reformation and is characterized by mostly-Anglo-Saxon Protestant Biblical Nationalism. It is the West of the Puritans, the Boers, and the Gottingen School of History. This Second West rediscovered the Bible and did their honest best to apply its wisdom, raw and simple; you can see in John Cotton's "Abstract of the Laws of New England" how much they tactily recognized the necessity of the Law of Moses in a Christian society. This Second West died a slow death of ideological poisoning at the hands of the Counter-Reformation in the 19th century, although you can see a few lit embers today if you look hard enough (for example, the Theonomists)
The Third West is the West of the Enlightenment, of Modernism, of Classical Deism, Traditional Freemasonry, Darwinism and Social Darwinism, and both 19th Century Liberalism and Socialism. While its de facto atheism doomed it from the start, this West was for the most part a honest attempt at rational philosophical inquiry, and it brought the greatest technological progress in history thus far.
The Third West died between 1945 and the 1960s of an incurable disease called Post-Modernism, although Accelerationists and Tech Bros would probably be its closest living relatives.
Many people confuse the Third West with its successor, the Fourth West, the Post-Modern and Gnostic West, although they have nothing in common.
The Third West was Deist/Atheistic; the Fourth West is Gnostic, taking the spirituality of Pagan and Semi-Pagan religions such as Neoplatonism, Buddhism and Catholicism and hollowing them out of Religion (i.e, text, liturgy and hierarchy) to turn them into a gaseous Cult of the Self.
The Third West was openly White Supremacist, Faustian, Nietzschean and still quite patriarchal; The Fourth West is the absolute transvaluation of values, a religion of hedonistic self-immolation for the White Race and of self-denial for the White Man in particular.
This is the West currently in charge, and the one openly at war with all civilizations - since it hates everything good and true.
Khomeini is quoted as saying on November 5, 1979, "[America is] the great Satan, the wounded snake." Then, I thought that was shocking and outrageous. Now? Not so much...
I believe the ideas of the Age of Enlightenment (17th and 18th centuries) are evil. I submit myself to God, not materialism. I am an American who has converted to Eastern Orthodoxy. There are very few of us in the United States. We share many conservative beliefs with Muslims. The Gaza genocide is evil. Please remember that some Americans are anti-western ideology. God have mercy on us.
how are muslims instructed to view , consider , treat , relate to etc the rest of the non muslim world , and themselves ??? dear God of goodness and truth and love please enlighten our darkness
I don't think anyone is talking about mass murder of an entire global religious identity; that would be as silly as talking about killing every Christian or the like.
Making generalizations is always hard because they always, always underestimate factionalism in any category. Even in the area of total European dominance, they were mostly focused on making war on one another, and so it is everywhere.
Love it. Glad to see that our views of what is ill within the West coincide. I'm interested to hear what a Muslim has to say about it, in the rest of the series!
"That West of Christendom, which resisted the oppression of kings, was charitable to the destitute, the weak, and the orphans, was patient with trials, troubles, and tribulations, and was always of sound mind when in battle...
That West may yet stage a comeback!"
Thanks for recognising the distinction between the remnant of Christendom within the West as being worthy of recognition.
But the seats of power are now virtually all occupied by those of the globalist/cultural Marxist/ materialist/ Satanic type and rheir useful idiot puppets who go in front of the cameras for their masters.
I know that you are humble in accepting compliments but your writing is impressive Ahnaf Ibn Quais. Just a fact.
This is an interesting and measured post, I'm eager to see the rest.
I'll enrich it by adding that there are not two Wests - there's at least four of them.
The First West represents the philosophical continuum from the various pagan religions and customs of Europe, to the Greco-Roman philosophical tradition (chiefly Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle and Plotinus), to the Roman Catholic Church which took both and laid a rather thin Biblical veneer upon them. This First West died a slow death at the hands of the Third West, but has its closest living relative in the Orthodox-Slavic tradition.
The Second West is the child of the Magisterial Reformation and is characterized by mostly-Anglo-Saxon Protestant Biblical Nationalism. It is the West of the Puritans, the Boers, and the Gottingen School of History. This Second West rediscovered the Bible and did their honest best to apply its wisdom, raw and simple; you can see in John Cotton's "Abstract of the Laws of New England" how much they tactily recognized the necessity of the Law of Moses in a Christian society. This Second West died a slow death of ideological poisoning at the hands of the Counter-Reformation in the 19th century, although you can see a few lit embers today if you look hard enough (for example, the Theonomists)
The Third West is the West of the Enlightenment, of Modernism, of Classical Deism, Traditional Freemasonry, Darwinism and Social Darwinism, and both 19th Century Liberalism and Socialism. While its de facto atheism doomed it from the start, this West was for the most part a honest attempt at rational philosophical inquiry, and it brought the greatest technological progress in history thus far.
The Third West died between 1945 and the 1960s of an incurable disease called Post-Modernism, although Accelerationists and Tech Bros would probably be its closest living relatives.
Many people confuse the Third West with its successor, the Fourth West, the Post-Modern and Gnostic West, although they have nothing in common.
The Third West was Deist/Atheistic; the Fourth West is Gnostic, taking the spirituality of Pagan and Semi-Pagan religions such as Neoplatonism, Buddhism and Catholicism and hollowing them out of Religion (i.e, text, liturgy and hierarchy) to turn them into a gaseous Cult of the Self.
The Third West was openly White Supremacist, Faustian, Nietzschean and still quite patriarchal; The Fourth West is the absolute transvaluation of values, a religion of hedonistic self-immolation for the White Race and of self-denial for the White Man in particular.
This is the West currently in charge, and the one openly at war with all civilizations - since it hates everything good and true.
Khomeini is quoted as saying on November 5, 1979, "[America is] the great Satan, the wounded snake." Then, I thought that was shocking and outrageous. Now? Not so much...
thank you... do you completly agree with Islamic attitude and actions about all the other worldly faiths...?
I believe the ideas of the Age of Enlightenment (17th and 18th centuries) are evil. I submit myself to God, not materialism. I am an American who has converted to Eastern Orthodoxy. There are very few of us in the United States. We share many conservative beliefs with Muslims. The Gaza genocide is evil. Please remember that some Americans are anti-western ideology. God have mercy on us.
how are muslims instructed to view , consider , treat , relate to etc the rest of the non muslim world , and themselves ??? dear God of goodness and truth and love please enlighten our darkness